They even tried to drain the lake to find something of value, but turned up short. Even if they were the meth dealers of the year, did they deserve this? It doesnt have a dedicated area for target shooting, but its of note that the girls were discovered on the first day of deer hunting season. And found by hunters, so obviously people hunt there. Lyric passed away on Friday, July 13, 2012. The girls were seen at about 12:23 p.m. July 13 on Brovan Boulevard in Evansdale, and then spotted between 12:30 and 1 p.m. on Gilbert Drive not far from Meyers Lake, a popular fishing and recreation area in the northeastern Iowa city of about 4,700 residents. Mr. Collins lost his daughter, his niece, his marriage, his peace of mind and much more. A serial killer who operates during the day in rural areas, so long as the chosen area is within a mile of a four lane highway. XXXXX sent December 7, 2020 My pet theory is that Evansdale and Delphi are connected. Shame on you bitch if I ever see you in public I will punch you in the face like you were a dude . Yes! When asked about Altmayer on July 12, 2017, Roehrkasse told KWWL, The most I would say is that he is one of our leads and I will leave it at that.. for example the names of the more robust girls, how would this guy know lyric and libbys middle names and that they were more robust? Related: Face on the Milk Carton: What Happened to Johnny Gosch? But we do keep that in mind, we do check with other states to see if they have anything close and obviously the case in Iowa is probably the closest but we don't even know the cause of death in that one they didn't find the victims until later so it's hard to compare but it is similar. Now he is dead. Believe me, sometimes the general public knows way more than law enforcement agencies will ever know and to me those people are just as guilty as the killers for keeping that information secret. December 5th. However, investigators would have to be able to place him the area. Look at those two charges! Seems so logical that he could be involved. Five months later on December 5th, 2012, hunters in the Seven Bridges Wildlife Area stumbled across two bodies, smaller in stature and appearing to be female. Is anyone aware of why Michael Klutner has been cleared for these murders? I have a feeling that these 2 girls knew their murderer. Or those girls saw something they shouldnt have. Im not sure if this is in any way related, but the similarities struck me. He called Libby's cellphone, but there was no answer. Does not seem like it. I saw the post about these two girls and wondered if there might have been an update. Its not a matter of finding as many similarities as possible, because this actually doesnt support the idea of the crimes being linked. he refused to let us go out at night and threatened to arrest anyone who did. The Gazette said other cases against Dan Morrissey charge him with possessing, dealing and making methamphetamine, and a range of other drug charges that could lock him up for decades if convicted. KWWL reported July 12, 2017, that Altmayer is also suspected in two other incidents one happening last June near the Dike City Park, and another a couple weeks later near Clay Street Park in Cedar Falls. Getter done. RIP angels I hope ur justice is one day found! I see Rydell is a dealer in Waterloo where he got the car. Its not the kind of place that many people even know about. A straight shot as it were, across the county. This creep has an old kidnappings charge and a charge with LASCIVIOUS ACTS W/CHILD-INFLICT PAIN OR DISCOMFORT (FELD) and KIDNAPPING 1ST DEGREE 1978 (FELA). Some have said the fact that the hunters found the girls bodies in such a remote area is lucky. The girls bikes were found on the trail in the South East corner of the park. A search began, and local parks, schools, and other areas were looked through. As the four-year anniversary approached for Lyric and Elizabeth, officials shared tips to prevent child abduction, and urged parents to establish a code word with their kids. Memorial services for Elizabeth Collins were held December 13. He was cleared Bridges exist in both cases. very good questions.I believe that the site where they were found was a known meth lab dump site.In the heart of the park.definitely someone local!!! Prayers to the family and friends. Though two of the witnesses came forward the information while canvassing, the third came several months later because the person assumed someone had already told police about it. Both sets of girls were found 50 ft from a slow moving stream. This theory is actually world wide on different sites. Ive been thinking of them often latley as summer is now here and how heartbreaking it is that their family still does not have any more answers and that justice has not been brought. Soon, the Black Hawk County Sheriffs Department and the local fire department joined in the search for Elizabeth and Lyric. Libby EA, Ekici S, Goulian M. Imaging OmpR binding to native chromosomal loci in Escherichia coli. If you'd like to reprint a post or case summary, please contact us with the name of the requested post/article. Lyric passed away on Friday, July 13, 2012. They are two totally different set of circumstances. lyric and elizabeth abby and libby would we be assuming he had to have known of both girls before he committed these crimes? The trail that runs around the lake is now known as the Trail of Angels. The park sitting next to the lake will be known as Angels Park., There is a lot of memorials around the lake and throughout the bike trail in Evansdale, Jeff Dawson, Chairman of the Evansdale Parks Department told KCRG in a story that aired February 5, 2013. Volunteers thought up the project and put it together through fundraising. Volunteers soon came out by the hundreds, organizing candlelight vigils, press conferences, and searches. 2010 Aug; 192 (15):4045-53. He is also listed as a Missing Person from North Liberty, Iowa, according to the Iowa Dept. Hardly anyone would be walking around that area much until the start of the deer hunting season. White SUVs. - www.CriminalCoffeeCo.com Lyric was a very special young lady. For example, a rival meth dealer, or maybe an angry supplier, would leave clues, or a type of message that confirmed his or her involvement in the crime. Roger, Please dont feel like I am attacking you directly, Im just trying to shed light on this blind spot we Iowans seen to have regarding murder, and the reasons it occurs. Three of their victims were an innocent woman and her two young daughters who happened to be dating one of Honkens former dealersthey were considered collateral damage in Honkens quest to shut his victims up. Pig slaughter plants exist in both locations. Many years ago the man that lived there kidnapped and killed a small child. Lyric and Elizabeth often rode their bikes within a 2-block radius. I want laws changed I want parents aware and deligent and I want the closed minded masses to think for theirselves to put the children first. She was a student at Poyner Elementary School and was a bubbly little person, with the best smile, who loved what life had to give and all it had to offer. There not enough time. And the pairs of girls resemble each other in appearance. My thinking is maybe someone saw them from a road and it was a crime of opportunity. Then theres the reward. Its right next to Waterloo. Drew, if youre out there you and your family are victims too! It wasn't long before the pair decided to spend a sunny and warm summer afternoon on a bike ride. Im easily manipulated and often lied to but I try yo be honest as I can and not use others toward my own personal gains or demand to get my own beliefs and opinions forced on others. He is now suspect for Delphi murders. Just have her take you on a tour and talk with her and her family and keep it confidential. Elizabeth June Marie Collins (courtesy Overton Family Funeral Homes) was born at Allen Memorial Hospital in Waterloo, Iowa, on July 31, 2003, the daughter of Drew and Heather (Cook) Collins. I hope they do the right thing. It must be nice living in judgement of others why dont you look at yourself .karma is a bitch Id watch out someday something tragic could happen to you and maybe while your going threw hell some asshole will talk shit about you online . Check this out. I dont want to give the exact address, but the grandmas house was on Brovan Blvd Evansdale, Iowa. Investigators admit that while there are many similarities surrounding the murders of Elizabeth, Lyric, Liberty and Abigail, they do not believe they were committed by the same person. So we take that into consideration as well and we've investigated that, we've been in contact with Iowa and they've been in contact with us and we've discussed that but nothing else seems to be popping up around the nation that is similar to this but doesn't mean he's gonna kill everybody the same way every time. Why not see who called in sick the day they disappeared? Im not pushing this off on Drugs because its the path of least resistance, Im stating known and proven facts. The houses were next door. They were taken to an area that is very remote. Smock made a plea to the public to identify anyone they believe is familiar with the Seven Bridges Wildlife Area. He supposedly had two previous arrests involving children. Very sad and heart breaking. 103. Also in May 2014, Drew Collins and Waterloo Director of Safety Services Dan Trelka traveled to Utica, New York, to participate in the Ride for Missing and Exploited Children. She was an infectious joy to be around with a smile that radiated with love. Rip sweet angelsthis is so sad. But in my experience, families may share some behaviors, learned or otherwise. It was a hot Summer afternoon in July of 2012 when young cousins, Lyric Cook-Morrissey and Elizabeth Collins happily rode away from Eizabeth's house in Evansdale, Iowa. An unknown SK seems very feasible to me. They would have been left in front of their homes, or photos would have been sent of them harmed before they died. a rookie no longer on duty. (i.e. I like the updates. According to KWWL Channel 7, the other witness told police they saw the vehicle parked near the woods on the east side of the lake only a few hundred feet from where the bikes were found. I really wish the woman of cold justice would look into this, 1982 September 5th Jonny Gosch was reported missing after he "disappeared" while delivering mail. Both occurred on the 13th. Those girls probably saw them in the house and was never told they are bad people. About Lyric and Elizabeth Lyric Ray Lynn Cook-Morrisey (courtesy Locke Funeral Home) was born on October 2, 2001, in Waterloo to Dan and Misty Morrissey. This is a community where we can speak openly about the Murders of Libby and Abby in Delphi, IN. Not all mutilated like you would expect from such animals. If the lication where the bodies were discovered, couldnt law enforcement pinpoint when the bodies first appeared in that location. Cant forget his pig slaughter plant signature either. You sent December 7, 2020 That would be unconscionable. Trees and a fence partially block the view from the highway but there are houses on the other side of the trees that have a direct line of sight to the trail. If you think someone might be a suspect, contact the authorities rather than putting someones name on public forums. Notoriety. I can not stand when people down others for errors. Thank you Kim for looking outside the box. Fourth Memorial Ride & Drive in honor of Lyric and Elizabeth, by Taylor Bailey, KWWL.com reporter, Airdate: July 9, 2016, Volunteers prepare for ride in honor of Lyric and Elizabeth, by Nikki Newbrough, KWWL.com, Airdate: July 7, 2016, Vigil Held for 3 Girls, Gone too Soon, by Bevan J. Lucas, KGAN, Airdate: March 12, 2015, Iowa starts year-long process to be CART-certified, by Kristyna Engdahl, KETV.com And just what ARE they doing with any DNA they have? I remember this. As in all small towns, everyone knows everyone and the girls and their families, and the murders were the topic of conversations for some time in all the places she hung out. Were there two family Press J to jump to the feed. I believe both cases are from the SK. Shes so cute; Id like to kidnap her, the article quotes R. Fitz as saying. I know but I am not convinced. That would be the two house addresses. I struggle everyday with judging others and dont like that in me but I do it just the same. Now Ive recently heard of a guy in Webster Co. that was trying to snatch children. Jeff Altmayer, 58, was charged with trying to entice children in Jasper, Monona and Grundy County by offering them $100 to get in his van. NBC News profiled the crime as one of its cold cases, noting the FBI Behavioral Analysis Units character profile of possible suspects. Also at the time the girls disappeared he lived on Gilbert Drive She had last seen them riding their bikes toward downtown around 12:20 pm in Evansdale, Iowa, a town of about 4700 people 10 miles southeast of Waterloo. Absolutely. But tried to communicate. I am not saying he was involved, but he has connections to the area. Drew- so sorry that on top of losing your daughter you have to deal with crap like this. Sounds simple enough but his families are also tied into the local drug trade. The woman he lived with was first in Evansdale, the moves out to Readlyn. The FBI eventually joined in the search, sending trained divers to Meyers Lake to search for the girls. Here is where you may feel I am off track or speculating. Wow Drew,are you really threatening me on a public forum? This from ICC admin Jody Ewing: While we appreciate all comments and hope to foster discussion about this unsolved case (which includes both girls), I see no point in someone attacking another persons spelling or grammar. He is considered endangered/physical, for some unknown reason. Now, is it clearer that this is realistic ? Now, why are you commenting on my comment a year later. They disappear and are later found murdered. Lyric and Elizabeth were in IA. I wonder if there is a connection :(. The evansdale city or other law enforcement / first responder took them. He is likely to do it again. From a psychology stand point, this is the reason the killer targets two girls, because part of his thrill is the fear shown by the second victim watching the first die, knowing whats coming next. Additionally, Cedar Valley Crime Stoppers offered a $20,500 reward for anyone coming forward with information that simply leads to an arrest. I wrote this after the girls were found .Dec 2012 Im just uneducated white trash but that dont make me all bad. My guess is that Elizabeth and Lyric were taken by a stranger who happened to see them riding their bikes, without anyone else around, and decided to kidnap them. Why was he fired. I was just watching Dr.Oz and seen a story about a beautiful young girl in Ohio Siera that was murderd in 2016 they found the serial killer to me he looks as if he could fit the description of the guy on the tracks with these two little girls that one of the girls filmed. Did you see yesterdays Des Moines Register? Later that same day, the girls bikes and Elizabeths purse were found near the corner of Meyers Lake. Dug here (Doug?). Both occurred in tiny rural towns. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. (1) Double homicide involving two abduction/murders of juvenile children is so rare, yet two happen in the same region within a few hours apart (double murder involving two girls is even more rare). Cant believe you said that !? Someone knew it was Richard in that video 2020. FWIW, Dustin Honken and Angela Johnson, both small time meth dealers in the Mason City area, kidnapped and killed five people in 1993 order to send a message not to squeal. There are the reverse dates: 7-13-12 / 2-13-17. But Lyric and Elizabeth were found at Bremer County's Seven Bridges Wildlife Park. In fact she called us in Colorado the night the girls went missing. Even if I am proven wrong by an arrest of a drug cartel member, other children and adults in this state have been spotted, stalked, killed, and dumped. Maybe the FBI didnt have enough information. ?about that time. * The next time you want to attack A) their; B) theyre; C) there grammatical or spelling errors, you might want to first check your own and remember why this website exists. Despite the connections, Indiana State Police dont believe both cases are tied to each other. I want sexual offenders against children to know we are not going to take our children being used and taken and slaughtered anymore. Michael Klunder did his crimes in places he lived and worked. The park where the girls were found is very remote and only the kind of place locals who grew up in the area ever visit. On Friday, January 25, 2013, State Senator Kent Sorenson, R-Milo, championed the idea of reintroducing the death penalty in Iowa. But hey no one is a criminal until they get caught right. Shame on you. I want the vile sick and evil person(s) caught and removed from hurting g any other children forever. I dont believe its linked.. but its still the only similar case in the last decade that i know off, so taking a deeper look ..this is another case we know nothing about.. actually its more secretive cause the info in delphi was exposed one way or another >>>not this one, were they kept alive after abduction or killed before being foundwhat was the state of the bodies and was it possible to know anything from them, but what i found interesting is that one family of one of the victims also had criminal history with drugs and so on, two ppl confessed to the murder but were ruled out as fake confession, this alerts you to have possible it is to get a fake confession for things like that, why is this case still coldi heard they only shared a detail years after about a car ? Its happended before one guy fessed up after about 40 years turned himself in. Hunters, fishermen, and campers tend to frequent it during deer season in the fall and in the spring. Summary. Both sets in a park but separated from other visitors. Im sorry no child is safe. Why dig in deeper? Lyric Cook (courtesy Locke Funeral Home) Its better to say something than nothing at all. I dont know her name I will be in Evansdale Wednesday He has lots of meth charges too. Im sorry Im still sending prayers. They contacted law enforcement officials at 12:45 p.m. On Thursday, December 6, 2012, Chief Deputy Rick Abben with the Black Hawk County Sheriffs Office held a press conference to announce officials were confident the bodies were those of Lyric and Elizabeth. :-/. In my opinion Delphi and Evansdale are not connected. Elizabeth Collins (left) and Lyric Cook (right) were found dead in Iowa in 2012. Lyric Ray Lynn Cook-Morrisey (courtesy Locke Funeral Home) was born on October 2, 2001, in Waterloo to Dan and Misty Morrissey. The parents may not know the specific killer but they DO know why thoes beautiful little girls lives we taken ! That book was amazing, still have an hour or two left to listen on Audible. I also often wonder how they were able to rule him out. The two girls were nowhere to be found, nor was there any idea of what could have happened to them. Many times were treasured as a family lying in bed eating popcorn and watching movies. That is the only missing link. You saw the killer. Mike, he sounds like a good candidate. Somebody knows something but they are keeping very quiet! Wow ?! She attended Kingsley Elementary School and was 10 years old. the fbi and dci camped at the evansdale pd for months or years after this and were present during this time that Kent was fired. Hypnosis will bring it out and we can move on. Who has left the area,?? He denied this possibility. If they are related, a lot of this occurs in the same families as a learned behavior. I live about 20 miles from the lake where the girls were abducted. I would like to try and track the path they took TO the park as I feel someone watched them and followed them in there, waiting til they got to this remoter area. Additionally, Cedar Valley Crime Stoppers has offered a $50,000 reward for anyone coming forward with information that simply leads to an arrest. Sheriff: No comment, KWWL Channel 7, Feb. 12, 2013, Officials to Rename Park, Trail for Cousins Abducted from Evansdale, KCRG-TV Channel 9, Feb. 5, 2013, Cause of Evansdale cousins deaths will be kept confidential, The Des Moines Register, Jan. 2, 2013, Funeral for Lyric Cook planned for Dec. 29, The Iowa City Press-Citizen, Dec. 17, 2012, Autopsies confirm bodies are missing girls, KCCI Channel 8, Dec. 10, 2012, Cousins case nears homicide classification, The Des Moines Register, Dec. 8, 2012, 127 Photos Search for Missing Iowa Girls, The Des Moines Register, Missing Girls: Autopsies could take weeks, KCCI Channel 8 Des Moines, Dec. 7, 2012, 2 bodies found in N.E. So do you know the name of the crusher and how did he Fitz die? I cant imagine what their families have gone through with thier disappearance and deaths. The girls grandmother, Wylma Cook, told the press she last saw the girls riding their bikes near downtown Evansdale about 12:15 p.m. July 13. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Didnt you say Gilbert in Evansdale? They could not have known all of this. There is other things to worry about especially finding the killer of these two girls and your acting like a grammar nazi. Lyric enjoyed bowling, cheerleading and gymnastics. If so, gun enthusiasts should be looked at, in addition to hunters. I was following this case and was SO hoping theyd be found and thats theyd be okay. Which only leaves strangulation and stabbing; strangulation would have been known due to specific damage/breaking on a particular bone in the necks. Keep investigating them! Which Parents,, both sides have their share!!!!! May these little girls rest in peace, I remember this very sad just wish they found out who did it And may those girls rest in peace :(, But there were hopes that this case could have been solved if the man responsible for that kidnapping was also responsible for this kidnapping. The girls' bodies were found the following day, approximately half a mile from the bridge. Were coming for you. Mystery. Better believe it .you are a nasty person and have no class someday our paths will cross and I cant wait you are a troll.drew Collins father of Elizabeth June Marie. Everyone thinks all they need is DNA. The little girls were around the same age as my son. Shes 85 years old and she lives in nearby Shell Rock, Iowa. Lyric was also survived by many cousins and friends. Chief Kent Smock of the Evansdale Police Department received confirmation Monday, according to a Black Hawk County Sheriffs Office press release. they didnt go out and say ( we dont know how thy were killed ? About Just like Delphi. I can read anything in the English Lang but do not ask me to spell or put it in correct grammar! Supplemental Motion for Discovery and Request for Rule 404 and 405 Evidence. They decided to visit some historical places and streets of Delphi to hang around. These were not not run of the mill Druggies that you see on tv sitting on a tore up couch in a 825 mobile home. Community members held a candlelight vigil Wednesday night at Meyers Lake at the same spot where theyd set up a makeshift memorial after the girls disappeared in July. i think when its too late, we dont want libby and abby to have the same fate. This suspicion was brought to light shortly after the girls disappearance. This perpetrator just died in prison and she and her family were discussing his obituary. It was short and grainy, but it placed the cousins less than a block from their grandmothers house around 12:11pm, near an auction house. In 2013, Dan was sentenced to 90 years in prison with a 30-year mandatory minimum after he pled guilty to three sets of drug charges (some were before Lyrics disappearance and others after). His crime was in 2008. Brett And Chelsee Sachs Of Sachs Law APC Share How They Are Working With Clients To Pay Things, 5 Terrifying Unsolved Cases of the Missing and Murdered, 70-Year-Old Milwaukee Woman Scammed Out of $38.5K by Fake FBI Agent Impersonator, William Penn: A Pioneer of Criminal Justice, One Vote Away: Conservatives and the Myth of a Liberal Supreme Court. Your ignorant fir calling someone that. So to me, they were both killed with a knife or a bladed weapon. Have you told any law enforcement that you know all these details? Thats my theory. Someone who only commits his crime if a bridge is involved in some way, and always leaves the bodies within 50 feet of a slow moving stream. Theres many similarities. Did you come here just to troll people? I know Oelwein is 30+ miles away but you drive near that area when you go towards Oelwein. Questions. (3) Victims were abducted at one site and murdered at a different site, (4) Both abduction and murder sites were linked to state parks, and/or historic trails where hunters would be familiar with, (5) Both murder scenes involved sexual staging of the bodies, (6) Both murders have had the families cleared of any wrong doing, which I understand family is the first to be looked at in every case, BUT, point being, both double murders would have been committed by a stranger which makes this occurrence even more rates, (7) Age range/group is the same in both double murders, mixed with all of the above gives both murders the same MO. 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